IETF Trust Call at 10:00 AM EST, Thursday, 2 July, 2009 Participants: Lynn St. Amour [NOT PRESENT] Fred Baker [NOT PRESENT] Marshall Eubanks [PRESENT] Bob Hinden [PRESENT] Russ Housley [NOT PRESENT] Ole Jacobsen [PRESENT] Olaf Kolkman [NOT PRESENT] Ray Pelletier [PRESENT] Henk Uijterwaal [PRESENT] Jorge Contreras [Guest, General Counsel to IETF Trust] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF Trust Agenda 1. Minutes • 23 April, 2009 IETF Trust Minutes • 7 May, 2009 IETF Trust Minutes • 21 May, 2009 IETF Trust Minutes • 4 June, 2009 IETF Trust Minutes • 18 June, 2009 IETF Trust Minutes 2. TLP Changes from Community Review • 30 Days • BSD License • Other 3. Revision Explanations ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Trust meeting was called to order by Marshall and a roll call was taken. 1. Minutes • 23 April, 2009 IETF Trust Minutes • 7 May, 2009 IETF Trust Minutes • 21 May, 2009 IETF Trust Minutes • 4 June, 2009 IETF Trust Minutes • 18 June, 2009 IETF Trust Minutes The Trustees briefly discussed the minutes on the agenda. A motion to approve the minutes was made by Marshall and was seconded by Henk. There were no objections and the minutes were approved unanimously. 2. TLP Changes from Community Review • 30 Days • BSD License • Other The Trustees reviewed the Community discussions regarding the TLP changes. They discussed that a TLP mailing list will be created; although, there were almost no responses from the Community regarding the TLP mailing list. The Trust discussed if a pointer to the license text is sufficient or that the whole text should be included, as was suggested by some posters. On advice from counsel, and after looking at similar cases, it was agreed that the position of the Trust is the pointer is a correct position and one they want to adopt. Also discussed was responding to the question of Yahoo’s use of the pointer. Also discussed was using the term ‘simplified’ as opposed to ‘revised’ in reference to the BSD license because that’s how it refers to it. The pseudo code was discussed and it was agreed that there’s no uniformly perfect way to list the code in the component list. They discussed an email from Scott Bradner and said that they owe him some explanation and will get an answer to him by Monday. The Trustees also discussed the possibility that the RFC Editor might not realize that they don’t have to include all the BSD license language each time there’s a code component, and that as a result they’re holding up some RFC that have code in them. The Trustees discussed the point John Klensin raised about the boiler plate that the Trust should have a position on. In the revised TLP, a few words have to be added and John would rather see a pointer to the text than the actual text. The Trustees discussed this and decided that they will stick to the original proposal of inserting the text rather than a pointer to a document. Regardless of all this, the people maintaining the tools should be informed about the boilerplate change. Ray will act on this. 3. Revision Explanations The Trustees noted that the revision explanation emails would go out Monday and they would hopefully see some feedback. The Trustees also discussed the status of the independent stream submission per an email forwarded to them from Sandy. It was noted that independent submissions aren’t based on prior work, and the problem may be more of a timing matter. All streams should follow the IETF stream rules. A motion to close the IETF Trust meeting was made by Marshall and seconded by Henk. The motion passed unanimously and the meeting was adjourned at 10:39 am.